Board Minutes February 2011: Difference between revisions

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**ALEX: We need to reconsider Bike Building.  We don't want to be losing money but the program has important non-monetary benefits: education and practice for volunteers; the retention of volunteers through the quiet winter months; providing a fun and social volunteer opportunity.  I would like to try cutting out the pizza and replacing it with cheaper snack food (say $10-15 a week instead of the $60 that was approved for pizza).  I believe the idea of Bike Building has great merit and would like to try to turn it around rather than immediately cancelling it.  Spending only $60 a month on food ($15x4) in addition to approximately $200 in pay for myself for a total expense of approximately $260 should allow us to at least break even based on past figures of added value. It's also important to note that I typically work on a variety of things additional to Bike Building while supervising Bike Building.  When reading the Bike Building Metrics please also note that figures for 'Parts Expenses' are based on what we charge for new parts and not what the new parts cost us. One last consideration is that finished bikes are more likely to sell than unfinished bikes and this form of added value is not fully accounted for.
**ALEX: We need to reconsider Bike Building.  We don't want to be losing money but the program has important non-monetary benefits: education and practice for volunteers; the retention of volunteers through the quiet winter months; providing a fun and social volunteer opportunity.  I would like to try cutting out the pizza and replacing it with cheaper snack food (say $10-15 a week instead of the $60 that was approved for pizza).  I believe the idea of Bike Building has great merit and would like to try to turn it around rather than immediately cancelling it.  Spending only $60 a month on food ($15x4) in addition to approximately $200 in pay for myself for a total expense of approximately $260 should allow us to at least break even based on past figures of added value. It's also important to note that I typically work on a variety of things additional to Bike Building while supervising Bike Building.  When reading the Bike Building Metrics please also note that figures for 'Parts Expenses' are based on what we charge for new parts and not what the new parts cost us. One last consideration is that finished bikes are more likely to sell than unfinished bikes and this form of added value is not fully accounted for.
**CHRIS: Please update the expense numbers to reflect what the new parts actually cost us. I may have given you seemingly different instructions on something similar, but in this case, we need to know what it's actually costing us for an effective evaluation. The value of the part when considering the sale price of the bike need not be the same as the value of the part when considering our costs. Used parts can "cost" us money too, and may need to be included in our the "parts cost" here, but generally that's going to be the "as-is" value of it, similar to the bike's initial value.  That as-is value of used parts is usually only a couple bucks, though, except for the nice parts. e.g. If you put that carbon seatpost in one of the bikes, it's going to cost us whatever we surely would have sold it for on its own.
**CHRIS: Please update the expense numbers to reflect what the new parts actually cost us. I may have given you seemingly different instructions on something similar, but in this case, we need to know what it's actually costing us for an effective evaluation. The value of the part when considering the sale price of the bike need not be the same as the value of the part when considering our costs. Used parts can "cost" us money too, and may need to be included in our the "parts cost" here, but generally that's going to be the "as-is" value of it, similar to the bike's initial value.  That as-is value of used parts is usually only a couple bucks, though, except for the nice parts. e.g. If you put that carbon seatpost in one of the bikes, it's going to cost us whatever we surely would have sold it for on its own.
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